We are so used to dialogues that follow the usual back and forth that “he said, she said” has become shorthand for almost meaningless chatter. But if we switch to “she said, he said,” our ears might perk up and hear something new. In this episode John and Lynn explore voices in conversation in poetry, prose, music and in our patter about them. We invite you to listen and open to the world around you. The cacophony of voices is a universe filled with riches.
Song 1: “Vuja De” (composed/performed by John V. Modaff with Jonathan A. Modaff on drums)
Poem 1: “She Said, he Said” by Julie Williams, a poet and visual artist. Author of Escaping Tornado Season and Drama Queens in the House. Her new poetry collection is in process.
Fiction: “Alice, Again,” by Lynn C. Miller. Her most recent publication is the novel The Surrogate, 2026. www.lynncmiller.com
Feed the Cat Break: “The Between” (John V. Modaff)
Poem 2: “Cusp” by Jules Nyquist, the founder of Jules’ Poetry Playhouse in Placitas, New Mexico, a place for poetry and play. She is the author of a number of award-winning books. www.poetryplayhouse.com
Song 2: “Teeth” (composed/performed by John V. Modaff with Jonathan A. Modaff on drums)
Episode artwork by Lynda Miller
Theme & original incidental music, John V Modaff, BMI
Recorded in Albuquerque NM and Morehead KY
Produced at The Creek Studio
NEXT UP on Episode 64: “Humor Heals”